Just better. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. m. (1) by Mar. The Bryan family as the Lee family were indeed Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Families often used names repeatedly. 2 July 1522, banneret Sept. 1547.3, Capt. Sir Francis Bryan an English courtier and diplomat during the reign of Henry VIII. Bryan was a poet, author, cypherer, diplomat, soldier, and the closest confidante of the King. Their daughter Anne Plantagenet of Woodstock + her 3rd husband, William Bourchier, 4. Sir Francis Bryan by Hans Holbien I have been researching a man named William Smith Bryan, supposedly born in 1599 in Ireland who was deported by Cromwell in the mid-1600s during the Irish Rebellion. Sir Francis Bryan, II was born 11 June 1549 in County Clare, Ireland the son of Sir Francis and Lady Joan Firzgerald Bryan. Sir Francis Bryan: Vicar of Hell Image used of unknown man Born about 1490 to Margaret Bourchier and Thomas Bryan, Francis was the oldest of two surviving children. 11b. He’s my 12th great grandfather. b. by 1492, 1st surv. It must have been either as Windsor’s successor or, if he was passed over for the shire, as a borough Member that Bryan entered the Commons: he was there by the penultimate session, when his name appears on a list of Members thought to have had a particular connexion with the treasons bill then passing through Parliament, perhaps as belonging to a committee. i am a desendant of francis bryan , my great grandparents were alice and christopher bryan and lived in s. mo. I think the difference between Wyatt and Bryan was that doing the king’s business was a heavy burden to Wyatt’s conscience whereas … well, Sir Bryan didn’t seem to have one. Sir Francis Bryan was twice married, first to Phillippa Montgomery, by whom he had a son, Sir Edward Bryan. Sir Francis Bryan was Henry VIII’s most notorious ambassador and one of his closest companions. I am tracing the Bryan line whose link is Mary Boone, sister of Daniel, and daughter of Sarah Morgan Boone and Squire Boone. 1528-d.; cipherer, the Household 1520; gent. (Wyatt’s writings to/of Bryan survive to this day, but Bryan’s writings have been lost in time.). ), As a soldier, diplomat and poet it’s easy to understand that Sir Francis Bryan had everything in common with our Sir Thomas Wyatt. By the way the Bryan line is traceable all the way back to 961 in Flanders, France. John Thomas Wyatt Family Bible For Sale on eBay, The Wiatt Family of Virginia by Alexander Lloyd Wiatt, THE WHITE QUEEN: Wyatt connections to the power players of the Cousins’ Wars, Bible of Interest to Indiana, Pennsylvania & Ohio Wyatts. He was married to Sarah Brink er who was born 1634 in Denmark. fa. Their (Morgan and Martha) daughter Elinor Bryan married William Linville, who appears to be the brother of Alee Linville who married Elinor’s brother Joseph Bryan (11a). Nonetheless, she soon accepts his offer to become his mistress. 12aC?. His Royal Highness King Edward III + Queen Consort Philippa d’Avesnes of Hainault, 2. Thomas Butler, 10th Earl of Ormond John Butler Edward Butler Walter Butler. my mother was clara baron and her mother was ila bryan, also living in a very small town there. Of this mission John Clerk, Wolsey’s chaplain, reported a month later that Bryan had ‘right well done his part’, especially in his attentions to Campeggio. I will tell you what I have been able to find so far. Henry VIII liked both men and yes, they were friends. Their son Sir John Bourchier, 1st Lord Berners + Lady Margery Berners, 5. If he made a will it has not been found and nothing is known of the disposition of his lands, most of which appear to have been held on lease. His fees from court offices were supplemented by his many leases and stewardships in the home counties and the midlands. 6 min read. Do you have anything about Margaret’s husband? Our central subject, their son Sir Francis Bryan I “The Vicar of Hell”, Lord Chief Justice of Ireland + Lady Joan Fitzgerald, widow of the poisoned James Butler the 9th Earl of Ormonde, 8. Sander, Rise and Growth of the Anglican Schism ( 1877), p. 24, records that Sir Francis Bryan ‘was once asked by the king to tell him what sort of sin it was to ruin the mother and then the child’. It would be nice to connect with relatives. In the writings of the Three Musketeers, the villain that challenged them was developed from the character and looks of grandfather Sir Francis Bryan. He married in about 1580 in County Clare, Ireland, Lady Ann Smith the daughter of Sir William and Alice Watson Smith. He is said to have been dropped off on the coast of Virginia with his family, belongings and the first horses in Virginia. I started recording my family tree in January with just that much on my father’s side in January. 41 likes. I also have one daughter though there have been several generations without any female siblings. Francis Bryan was born into a family well-endowed by the achievements of his grandfather. The king burst forth into loud laughter and said to Bryan, ‘Well, you certainly are my vicar of hell’.”. 1528; keeper, Richmond Park, Surr. Quite the same Wikipedia. “Francis Bryan III, eldest son of William Smith Bryan and Catherine Morgan, was born about 1630 in Virginia. Thanks! I am in the process of putting this information into my tree in Ancestry.com. Sir was born on June 1 1464, in Cheddington, Aylesbury Vale, Buckinghamshire, England. subsidy, Herts. i knew one of grnandmother’s cousins was daniel boones wife. Sir Thomas Bryan, the judge’s son, made his career at court where he was a knight of the body to Henry VII and Henry VIII and vice-chamberlain to Queen Catherine of Aragon: he married into a cultured baronial family prominent at court and his widow, who was something of a blue-stocking, was to become governess to the princesses Mary and Elizabeth. My 2d great-grandmother, Susannah Bryan Boren, was first cousin to Rebecca Bryan Boone. They found such boon companions in France that on returning to England they ‘were all French in eating, drinking and apparel’. None the less in later generations of his lineage the town of Smithfield North Carolina was founded and layed out by his grandchildren of which two were by grandparents and the other a great uncle….Needham Bryan 1 and sons William ( my lineage) and Needham Bryan II ( a great uncle) were founders of that town. suc. The Bryan family as the Lee family were indeed prominent in the history and developement of America and I am so proud of those who lived then and those who live today… not many today can make the claim I make and prove it by documentation……yet I do not boast beyond that which I had not a hand in causing, but yet, am a part of…. He served his king throughout his life and unlike many of the other men who served Henry VIII, Bryan kept his head and outlived his sovereign. His depositions as to certain remarks and actions by Catherine of Aragon were used against her in 1533. As a soldier, diplomat and poet it’s easy to understand that Sir Francis Bryan had everything in common with our Sir Thomas Wyatt. 12cA. Sir Francis Bryan was Henry VIII's most notorious ambassador and one of his closest companions. Lady Bryan: An Iron Hand in a Velvet Glove. prominent in the history and developement of America and I am so proud of those who lived then and those who live today… not many today can make the claim I make and prove it by documentation……yet I do not boast beyond that which I had not a hand in causing, but yet, am a part of…. I am probably a tenth great grandson of Sir Francis. He may have served again for the same constituency in the following Parliament, that of June 1536, when the King asked for the re-election of the previous Members, although his connexion with the doomed Queen perhaps told against him on that occasion: the statement that he sat for a borough in this Parliament rests on a misreading of the name of Sir Francis Bigod in a document compiled by the rebels of 1536.12, On the outbreak of that rebellion Bryan was joined with Sir John Russell and Sir William Parr in mustering the forces of Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire and Northamptonshire, and his signature appears with theirs and Sir William Fitzwilliam I’s on reports to the King. Five years later he was assessed for the subsidy in the Household at £400 in lands and fees.6, Bryan’s career overseas began inauspiciously. As to my understanding Rebecca and Martha’s brother was a better frontiersman than Daniel and often escorted Daniel on many of his daring adventures into the mountains of Tennesse, Kentucky,and North Carolina. Carew was removed to Calais, but Bryan kept his post and was in Henry VIII’s retinue in 1520, when he doubtless revelled in the Field of Cloth of Gold. Sir Thomas Bryan, chief justice of common pleas, died in 1500 holding lands in Buckinghamshire and seven other counties stretching from Kent to Yorkshire. Sir Francis Bryan. We see the name Bryan appear in line #6. privy chamber by 1521; esquire of the body by 1522; commr. William Jones wrote back and added:” In my last comment I said three children of Morgan Bryan married two children of Squire Boone. I would be happy to share any info that I have. We encourage you to research and examine these records to determine their accuracy. The evil and eye patch wearing character was developed from the image of ‘The Vicar of Hell.’. When Francis Bryan was born on 1 June 1490, in Cheddington, Buckinghamshire, England, his father, Thomas Bryan, was 26 and his mother, Margaret Bourchier, was 22. By Lady Joan, he had a son, Francis, who married Ann, daughter of Sir William Smith. Rebecca Bryan, wife of Daniel Boone, was not the daughter of Morgan Bryan, but rather his granddaughter. I don’t know the Boone line but – in case you missed it – Jones later wrote back ” In my last comment I said three children of Morgan Bryan married two children of Squire Boone. Bryan was a man of many talents; jouster, poet, rake and hell-raiser, gambler, soldier, sailor and diplomat. Am I correct in my thinking? Micki. Mickisuzanne– A Morgan Bryan married a Mary Boone, but I also find documentation for a Morgan Bryan and Elizabeth Smith (my ancestors). These services were rewarded by a grant of the site and demesne lands of the late priory of Taunton, Somerset. Francis Bryan. Later in the autumn Bryan was appointed ambassador with Peter Vannes, the King’s secretary, to travel by way of Paris to Rome to promote a peace between Francis I and the Emperor and to further the King’s divorce. SIR FRANCIS BRYAN* (d. 1550), poet, translator, soldier, and diplomatist, was the son of Sir Thomas Bryan, and grandson of Sir Thomas Bryan, chief justice … An embassy to the Emperor in October 1543 was followed in the next year by service in the rearguard of the army in France with a personal muster of some 200 billmen and archers: the despatches sent to England in June and July bore his signature. Their (Morgan and Martha) son Captain William Bryan married Mary Boone, sister of Daniel and Edward. Bryan was also a cousin of Anne Boleyn – who he betrayed. 11c. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. He remained there for the next 12 months and earned the King’s approval for his ‘dexterity, diligence and good behaviour’: his only shortcoming was his lack of Latin, and to make this good the King’s almoner Edward Foxe was sent to join him. an earlier gen. of course. I was stuck for a while but Ezekiel and Joseph followed eventually. Henry VIII liked both men and yes, they were friends. He returned to Ireland in 1667 and tried to regain the Clare County estates, but was persecuted by the government and forced to seek refuge in Denmark. His son, William Smith Bryan, attempted to gain the throne of Ireland, and in 1650 Cromwell deported him as a … Apart from the episode at the time of Anne Boleyn’s fall his relations with Cromwell were evidently correct, if not friendly: even then Cromwell had spoken to the King on his behalf, and when he was abroad in 1537 and 1538 he thanked the minister for being good to him, as he learned from Sir John Russell and other friends.10, During his early married life Bryan may have been domiciled at the Fortescue manor of Faulkbourne, Essex, which was visited several times by the King. 1524-6; v.-adm. 1525, 1543; j.p. They were the parents of at least 2 sons. As the son of one courtier and the protégé of another, Bryan soon found his own place at court, where one of his sisters became the wife of Sir Henry Guildford and the other of Sir Nicholas Carew.5, The first glimpse of Bryan comes in 1513 when during the admiralty of his kinsman Sir Thomas Howard he held a command in the navy. 1535, benevolence 1544/45, musters 1546; forester, Enfield Chase, Mdx. In 1522 he obtained the wardship of Henry Fortescue, whose mother he had already married. As to my understanding Rebecca and Martha’s brother was a better frontiersman than Daniel and often escorted Daniel on many of his daring adventures into the mountains of Tennesse, Kentucky,and North Carolina. His cultural interests were fostered especially by his uncle Lord Berners, whose many translations included, at Bryan’s request, The golden boke of Marcus Aurelius. I share this because – besides being FASCINATING – it may help some of you develop your trees. Grandfather William Bryan and his brother Needham Bryan married daughters of Joseph Smith who by so marrying them proved Joseph Smith to be an indirect great grandfather that gave the land for the town of Smithfield. 1526; master of the henchmen 1526-49; custos rot. In 1535 and 1537 he reported to Cromwell on matters of treason heard at the sessions at Brickhill, Bedfordshire, and in 1535 the bishop of Lincoln commended ‘the good order’ Bryan had taken in Buckinghamshire ‘in redressing the heresies hitherto used in this woody country of Chiltern’.11, Bryan was not one of the Members originally returned to the Parliament of 1529, but after the list of Members had been revised in the spring of 1532 Cromwell nominated him (in preference to Sir Robert Lee of Quarrendon) for Buckinghamshire, where a vacancy had existed since the translation of Sir Andrew Windsor to the Lords during the first session. He liked soft beds, hard harlots and beautiful clothes. Acco rding to this source, Francis Bryan does have issue, which I hope is tru e since I have claimed him through Morgan Bryan of Pa & NC. justice Dec. 1549.4, Francis Bryan was born into a family well-endowed by the achievements of his grandfather. I haven’t been able to establish whether our lines attach to Sir Francis Bryan in any way, but this morning I received this FASCINATING comment from Bryan descendant William Jones and wanted to share it with everyone. Sir Francis Bryan was nicknamed either by Henry VIII or Thomas Cromwell as the Vicar of Hell. I have two sons so that would be sixteen generations of Bryan men going back to the first Sir Thomas Bryan. Bryan was a man of many talents; jouster, poet, rake and hell-raiser, gambler, soldier, sailor and diplomat. Their (Morgan and Martha) son Joseph Bryan Sr. married 2nd Alee Linville. Sir Francis Bryan, Lord Chief Justice of Ireland My 13th Great Grandfather Born: 1517, Chidington, Buckinghamshire, England Died: 2 February 1550, Clonmel, Waterford, Ireland Father: Sir Thomas Bryan Mother: Lady Margaret Bourchier, Baroness Bryan Wife: Lady Joan Fitzgerald, Countess Ormond and Desmond Children: Sir Francis Bryan II I have no clue, I put it out there hoping the info might help someone with roots in that area. Sir Francis Bryan (1490 - 1550) How do we create a person’s profile? They had a son named Thomas, his son was James, his son was Harris, his son was Joseph, then his son was Matthew N. Brannon, Matthew’s son was Mathew, and his son was Shelby, then lastly Shelby is the father of Edward, my father. Nicola Shulman talks about Sir Francis Bryan about 17 times; it’s an interesting book and the author has done a lot of research. Census data made it easy to find John W and John Bryan were my first and second great grandfathers. Required fields are marked *. Need to translate "SIR FRANCIS BRYAN" from english and use correctly in a sentence? Mary’s father was James Bryan, one of the frontiersmen who traveled with Daniel Boone. Sir Francis Bryan was my 7th great grandfather. I’m a descendant of Sir Francis Bryan as well. In 1537 he attended the christening of Prince Edward and two years later the reception of Anne of Cleves, where he was noted for his rich apparel and a chain of great worth and strange fashion. Also it must be noted that another great grandson of Sir Francis Bryan, namely Morgan Bryan had two daughters and a son that married two children of Squire Boone. In November 1548 Bryan arrived in Dublin to take up the office of lord marshal: a year later he was made lord justice pending the arrival of a new lord deputy to replace (Sir) Edward Bellingham, who had resented his appointment, but on 2 Feb. 1550 he died suddenly at Clonmel from an unknown cause. Her parents were Sir Humphrey Bourchier–who was killed fighting for Edward VI at the … Although from 1532 more of Bryan’s time was to be spent in England, he served on further missions to France between 1533 and 1538 with his kinsman the 3rd Duke of Norfolk or Stephen Gardiner and led his own embassy there in 1537.9, As a gentleman of the privy chamber Bryan was expected to be in attendance for alternate periods of six weeks, and when in England he was a central figure at court. Please email me ladee_bug02 at yahoo.com. 12aB. 11a. https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/23366227.pdf, btw Boone brothers married sisters, they are Shakespeare sisters 2nd great grand daughters. Bucks. Roger Ascham, who presumably knew him well, described his youthful personality as being maintained even when ‘spent by years’, and one of Wyatt’s satires addressed him as, Bryan ... who knows how great a graceIn writing is to counsel man the right.To thee ... that trots still up and downAnd never rests, but running day and nightFrom realm to realm, from city, street and town,Why dost thou wear thy body to the bones?16, © Crown copyright and The History of Parliament Trust 1964-2020. 1537-d.; recorder, Bedford c.1548; marshal, Ireland Nov. 1548, ld. This completed the connection to Captain Morgan Bryan and through him to Sir Francis. s. of Sir Thomas Bryan of Ashridge, Herts. There are too many for me to enumerate here. Their (Joseph and Alee) daughter Rebecca Bryan married the famous Daniel Boone. Is that the Lee family descended of Margaret Wyatt Lee, then, I suppose? In the following January, when they were joined by Gardiner, Vannes informed Wolsey that Bryan was behaving prudently and was beloved by all. Morgans two daughters married Daniel and his brother while Daniels sister married Rebecca and Martha Bryans brother. 47-48. Rebecca Bryan married the great frontiersman of America, Daniel Boone.”, (Please note a descendant’s comment/correction to this quote below.). He was also a man who, according to the abbot of Woburn, dared to speak his mind to the King; on foreign missions he could on occasion be equally outspoken, if not arrogant. by 31 Jan. 1518. They had a son William born in Ireland, and then…, 10. of John Fortescue of Ponsbourne, Herts. These two (George and Nancy) are my 5th-great grandparents. I have stumbled upon your post a few years after-the-fact, but, yes, I believe Sir Francis is ancestor to the Bryans who married Boones. Subsequent generations prove the families remained close and continued to marry one another. Within two years he had established himself as a favourite with the King, who was of an age with him: a frequent sharer in the royal pastimes, his enthusiasm for the chase was rewarded by his appointment in 1518 as master of the toils, but in the years that followed he was given posts of greater responsibility. According to a document cited below in a letter from Jennie C. Morton, James’ wife died shortly after giving birth to their 6th child and the children were then raised in the Boone household by James’ sister and brother in law Rebecca and Daniel. Your email address will not be published. In 1543, on the appointment of John Dudley, Lord Lisle as admiral, Bryan was made vice-admiral because of ‘his experience in sea matters’. He reappeared in the following Parliament, that of 1542, this time taking the senior place for the shire: the honour was perhaps a measure of the continuing confidence placed in him by a King who had recently rejected another cousin of his, Catherine Howard. Their behaviour led to their dismissal from the court in May 1519 on the ground that ‘after their appetite’ they ‘governed the King’. Their daughter Margaret Bouchier + Sir Thomas Bryan II, son of Sir Thomas Bryan I, 7. Their son Francis Bryan II + Ann Smith, daughter of Sir William Smith, 9. ?Oxf. Sir Francis Bryan is first seen at Henry and Jane Seymour's wedding in episode 3.01, flirting with Lady Missledon, who accuses him of having a reputation for 'boarding other men's boats.' He served his king throughout his life and unlike many of the other men who served Henry VIII, Bryan kept his head and outlived his sovereign. Margaret, Lady Bryan, governess to the royal children of King Henry VIII, was born about 1468 in Benningborough, Yorkshire, England. SIR FRANCIS BRYAN* (d. 1550), poet, translator, soldier, and diplomatist, was the son of Sir Thomas Bryan, and grandson of Sir Thomas Bryan, chief justice … Sir Francis Bryan was my 8th great-grandfather. I am confused about whether I descend from Francis Bryan. Renee. Your article seems to indicate they could be two different men…two different great grandsons of Francis Bryan. My father Charles Thomas Bryan only knew of his father Samuel Thomas, both of Missouri. Would love to speak with you directly. He married Phillipa Spice about 1512. In the same episode, Bryan delivers a document to Mary Tudor on behalf of Thomas Cromwellthat recognizes her father as the head of the Church of England; when she ref… Bryan replied ‘that it was a sin like that of eating a hen first and its chicken afterwards’. (1) Thus begins the entry for Sir Francis Bryan, a lifelong friend and companion to King Henry VIII, in General Biographical Dictionary, by Alexander Chalmers, 1812–1817. He indeed wore a patch but something you may not know is this. When Henry VIII was on his deathbed, he uttered his last words to Sir Francis Bryan, who attended his sick bed. Most important, they were business associates; the king’s business. The volume explores the life and times of Bryan; his heritage, Knighthood, and other heraldic awards acquired during King Henry’s monarchy and thereafter. Sir Francis’s mother appears to have descended from King Edward III, and since that will likely be interesting to your readers, I will begin with HRH and work down from there to Morgan Bryan, numbering each generation. He was not, however, elected to the first Edwardian Parliament, the knighthoods for Buckinghamshire going to Francis Russell and Anthony Lee, with each of whom Bryan had sat earlier.14, Bryan’s marriage to the widow of the 9th Earl of Ormond was probably a political match designed to prevent her marriage to the Desmond heir, a union which in the event it merely postponed. Mary Boone married Captain William Bryan and this is the line that goes back to Sir Francis Bryan. Smith Bryan) was born in 1630, Claire, I reland and died in 1677 in Belfast, Ireland. Their son Francis Bryan III + Sarah Brinker. It was with Russell’s son Francis that in the autumn Bryan was elected for Buckinghamshire in the last Parliament of the reign.13, With Henry VIII’s death Bryan’s own career entered its last phase: no longer a court favourite (although his mother was ‘lady mistress’ of the new King’s household) he remained a considerable figure, not least by reason of his landed wealth which was assessed for subsidy at £888 a year. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. of Sir Humphrey Bourchier (d.1471), s. and h. of John, 1st Lord Berners. Rather than change the quote (which is not kosher), I noted your comment/correction. Since the connection is patrilineal, I took the Y-chromosome DNA test. Although during the summer he was reporting pessimistically about the mission and asking to return home, he was not recalled until October.8, Bryan undertook special missions in France during 1530 and at the end of that year was appointed resident ambassador at the French court in place of John Welsborne. Enjoy the series but note that casting and timing constraints forced them to distort facts. The hard part was finding Morgan Bryan, Jr had a son Joseph who matched my fourth GGF Joseph. How to transfigure the Wikipedia . Photos:5. 1538; chief butler, Eng. There is no reference to either brother in their grandfather’s will of 1496, but Francis was almost certainly born before that date: the abbot of Woburn was to describe him in 1538 as ‘now growing in age’. In 1522 he served in the expedition against Brittany, and after the fall of Morlaix he received the accolade ‘for hardiness and noble courage’. 1525-42, Herts. Tag Archives: Sir Francis Bryan Lady Bryan: An Iron Hand in a Velvet Glove. Any chance you have relevant information? After the dissolution of this Parliament he was sent a letter about the collection of the subsidy he had helped to grant. ancestors of Sir Francis Bryan and then tries to list som e of his descendants. One account says this Francis returned to Ireland to attempt to reclaim his mother’s lands in County Clare, but was driven out and had to flee to Denmark. constable, Warwick castle, Warws. I don’t get any result back until late July. 2. Sir Francis Bryan Gerald FitzGerald, 15th Earl of Desmond: Issue. Morgans two daughters married Daniel and his brother while Daniels sister married Rebecca and Martha Bryans brother. Here’s how I’ve researched the lineage: Sir Francis married Lady Joan Fitzgerald and they had a son named Francis who had a son named William Smith Bryan who had a son named Thomas and his son was Thomas who’s daughter was Margaret Bryan who married Caron Brannan. “Oh, Bryan, we have lost all.” Reply. Sarah Brinker was a cousin to the Princ ess of Orange. Kntd. Sir Francis Bryan (or Bryant), an English poet and warrior, was born of a genteel family, educated at Oxford, and afterwards spent some time in travelling abroad. Intimate with the circle of Sir Thomas Wyatt I and Henry Howard, Earl of Surrey, Bryan had a reputation as a poet of almost the same calibre as his friends. In the autumn of 1538 he fell ill and lost favour with the King when he drank too much and committed other ‘follies’ after losing money in Provence, but he recovered both health and favour in time to be elected a knight for Buckinghamshire to the Parliament of the following year. “It’s so that great grandfather loved to do contests and hone his skills with the sword but he endeared himself in his works of poetry. He married in 1548 in Burkinghamshire, Lady Joan Fitzgerald the daughter of James FitzMaurice and Amy O'Brian FitzGerald. educ. Cromwell thought him implicated in the misdeeds of Anne Boleyn and denounced him as ‘vicar of hell’, but when he peremptorily called Bryan before him nothing was proved and in a rearrangement of offices a few days before the execution Bryan became chief gentleman of the privy chamber and bore the King’s personal announcement of the event to Jane Seymour. Their (Joseph and Alee) daughter Martha Bryan married Daniel’s brother Edward Boone. Sander, Rise and Growth of the Anglican Schism ( 1877), p. 24, records that Sir Francis Bryan ‘was once asked by the king to tell him what sort of sin it was to ruin the mother and then the child’. He served his king throughout his life and unlike many of the other men who served Henry VIII, Bryan kept his head and outlived his sovereign. Bryan replied ‘that it was a sin like that of eating a hen first and its chicken afterwards’. How wonderful it would be to learn – all these generations – that the descendants of old friends  had connected again. She was the daughter of Joseph Bryan. (I’m the author of this blog and the Sir Thomas Wyatt the Poet presence on Facebook.).
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